It’s Not The Length hosts Paul Evans & Ben Mondy are back to mull over surf news and air their own surf views in the midst of smoking hot mid summer madness.

Paul finds himself billeted on a (windy) campsite in Capbreton SW France living the dream, while Ben joins from his WSL propaganda lair in an undisclosed location in SE England.

Ever supportive of folk who seek their stoke in unique an innovative ways, the pod catches up with madman Niccolo Porcella – he of horrific Chopes wipeout fame – to learn about his new version of triathlon, which involves SUPing to an island, free climbing up a mountain and then BASE jumping back down to his trusty SUP.

Yikes!

Elsewhere Ben Mondy has a pop at deciphering some of fellow podcaster Matt Barr’s big words in his Looking Sideways pod, in a brand new feature called Are You Smarter Than A Smooth Talkin Matt Barr Steward?

(Spoiler alert: he isn’t.)

Topics up for discussion include Wavelength Drive In Cinema, Bobby Martinez, the WSL reboot and how it might affect Paul & Ben’s lucrative commentary careers, RIP Uncle Derek Ho, Why Good Boards Must Die, and much much more.

p.s. Big shout out to all the hardcore ITNL fans – you know who you are.

Without all of your support, we could never have made it to 131st in the Portuguese podcast charts for June (sport category).

Running time: 42m15s